Proposed Changes Edit

Hello, chihuahua0 from the TV Tropes Wiki here. Hopefully I'll become a regular member of this site.

First of all, can I be a mod of the Anime and Manga section? I'll love to do it.

Second of all, we need a table of contents on the main page. Just list the major categories.

Third of all, we should also fire up the forum section, which is rarely used on some Wikia Wiki.

Lastly, I think that once the admins back at Troper Tales decide which pages need to go, we should move some of the kinky ones here. It would help our page count, and we'll be saving pages from the void of the Internet. Chihuahua0 22:36, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

Hi there, chihuahua0! Wikia doesn't allow you to make someone a mod of just one section of the wiki. I could make you an admin of the whole site instead. However, I'd like to discuss this with you a little and get to know you better before making the move, just to make sure we're on the same page. Why are you interested in being an admin?
I was waiting to fix an issue with the Final Fantasy page before working on the table of content. I'll get to it as soon as possible. It's beyond late over here. If you have any ideas about how to do it, go ahead and edit the main page. If I don't like something, I can always edit it back XD
I really would love it if we had an active forum. Tvtropes' sense of community is one of the things I love the most about it.
I really don't get why they suddenly want to delete those. Of course we should move the pornish pages here! It's going to be a lot of work, though. Are you willing to help?

Ffmod 00:05, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

I'll try. I'll be avaible this weekend, and maybe Monday if it's a snow day. I'll see if I can make a basic outline of the table of contents.
I want to be an admin because I just want to be one XD
Chihuahua0 02:43, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

Does anybody know somebody who has a site backup handy? It'd be easier to get a siterip of today then manually add things over time than trying to grab things as Eddie is going on a slash and burn operation.

Mopeyennui 03:56, February 11, 2011 (UTC) ⅓


I heard Eddie was waiting till we had everything cleared before cutting, that's what he did with the Fetish Fuel pages. From fairly reliable sources. Mostly Fast Eddie himself and the three or so who've put this Wiki together.
TCASM 12:54, February 23, 2011 (UTC)

Troper tales: What to do with them? Edit

As you might know already, they're also going to delete some other troper tales. Chihuahua0 suggested we move them here. I agree with him. What do you guys think? Also, do we move all troper tales or just those relevant to our pervy interests? Lastly, what kind of tales, if any, do we want to keep out of the wiki?

For example, I'd rather not have things like Noble Bigot or He Man Woman Hater in the wiki, as they tend to attract racist and sexist examples. If we do add them, we'd have to do some heavy modding to make sure things don't get out of hand.

What do you people think?

Ffmod 09:15, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

I think ones like "Fetish" and "Fetish Retardant" and "Fetish Fuel Future" would be fairly sensible ones to grab. Maybe some of the fetish-tastic/fetish-based ones like "Foot Focus" and "Big Beautiful Woman" and "Girl On Girl Is Hot" and "Audio Erotica". Maybe some of the ((other)) Sex Tropes, too? And maybe "Woobie", but that's mostly because practically the only reason anyone wants it cut is because people are "fishing for sympathy". (>_<)

Out? Any of the Maniac/Depraved/etc. ones. No "Acceptable (---) Target" ones. No "Abuse/Rape Is Okay If (---)" ones. Probably none of the "All (---)s Are (---)" ones.

Would look at more, but have to leave now,

TCASM 15:13, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

I'd just be happy with Perverse Sexual Lust, Yaoi Fangirl and Girl On Girl Is Hot (minus the "waaah, you fail!" drama). As well as Audio Erotica and Even The Guys/Girls Want Him/Her.


Even deleting the ones you said, I came up with a list of 71 sexual tropes. I'm devoted, what can I say x( These are the most 'problematic' ones:

Due to squicky matters:
* Kissing Cousins
* May December Romance
* Potty Failure (Also not exactly sexual.)
* Teacher Student Romance
* Diaper fiction
* Incest yay
* Drinking breast milk
* Moe

Due to them not being sexual enough:
* A party also known as an orgy
* All Girls Want Bad Boys
* Draco In Leather Pants (Not sure if it's sexual enough?)
* Friends with benefits

Would need heavy modding:
* Acceptable Lifestyle Targets
* Depraved Bisexual
* Me love you long time (racist, I suspect)

Lolgoggles 23:02, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think any of the three under "Heavy Modding" should be put up. Or Potty Failure. Personally.

TCASM 16:37, February 7, 2011 (UTC)

Sexual Troper Tales that they're deleting:

  • Gag Penis
  • Raging Stiffie
  • Diaper Fiction - Gross, I know, but we're not here to judge and the one example it has is self-parodying.
  • Foot Focus
  • Comic Sutra
  • Girl On Girl Is Hot
  • Depraved Bisexual - If renamed to Anything That Moves, most examples could be saved
  • Nightmare Fetishist
  • Man I Feel Like A Woman
  • Anime Anatomy
  • Covert Pervert
  • Fetish Fuel Future
  • Creepy Sexy
  • Screw Yourself
  • Everyone Looks Sexier If French
  • Audio Erotica
  • Anti Goggles - Relevant to our interests?
  • Yaoi Fangirl
  • Underboobs
  • Belligerant Sexual Tension
  • Zettai Ryouiki
  • Twin Threesome Fantasy
  • Chaste hero - Relevant to our interests?
  • Het Is Ew - Heterosexist. I vote against it.
  • She's Got Legs
  • Bound And Gagged

--Ffmod 17:03, February 8, 2011 (UTC)

I vote NO to all pruning. Also excluding content. Bring it all over here. If TVT wants to be borning cunts, let em. But bring the content over here so we can play with it. I'm not sure if this was supposed to be a SERIOUS BUSNESS wiki or not... I'd rather it not. (That way, in the future it will prevent deletionism.)

Edit: I don't know about you but I used TVT to find series I may wish to watch. Can we plase be rational enough to /seperate/ tropes based on gender? (Gender matters and different genders get treated differently.)

I doubt it will happen.. too much fail on this wiki by people who want to edit things into neat piles. What's the fucking point of this wiki if not to keep tropes that are filled with provocativeness and questional content? You might as well join the edit birgade on TVT and prune things down to squat.

We do not pay for wikia's every minute little hosting cost.. there is NO REASON to edit ANYTHING down to stumps. Yet you all want to. (Well most of those who are speaking up.) NO REASON behind not host every litting related things. Same with large pages.. nobody here is paying for the difference between a 22k article and a 2k article.

Mopeyennui 05:39, February 11, 2011 (UTC)

Catwoman VS Fetish Fuel-tan Edit

There's a discussion on the discussion page for the Wiki back on TVT about the pic for the main page. Some have suggested Catwoman, some suggest getting someone talented to draw up our very own Fetish Fuel-tan, like Trope-tan only showing off a few fetishes.

So far the -tan group wants it because it would be ours, properly. The pro-Catwoman want that partly because she's been the figurehead of Fetish Fuel since forever.

Any thoughts, arguments, or suggestions?

TCASM 20:30, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

I say just give Fetish Fuel-Tan cat ears and a tail as one of the fetishes she covers. Catwoman would just run the risk of copyright issues.

Dragon Quest Z 23:55, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Dragon Quest Z, but let's also give her a cat-suit and red opera gloves while we're at it. Also, call her Kinky-tan, which sounds better. Who designed Trope-tan again?

Chihuahua0 00:54, February 6, 2011 (UTC)

Can we have multiple Tans? So we can have a team of them that cover as many fetishes as we can think of? For example, we could have like Kinky-Tan (Possibly a catgirl, schoolgirl, buxomisbetter, etc.) and a bunch of other Tans for various other fetishes? I wouldn't mind maybe having different Tans named after common kinks...I personally want a Tan to be really buff but really hot. And have skimpy clothing. And the Buxom Is Better trope. I need help.

Darkclaw91 14:11, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

What about Wonder Woman (who's been fetishised since yoinks ago?

Mopeyennui 20:42, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

From the thread on TV Tropes, it looks like an artist will draw one male Fetish Fuel Station Attendant and one female FFSA sleeping cute to be the official mascots. Everyone alright with that?


Is that what this... THING is in the front page? It's repulsive. --TheJohns 13:12, February 20, 2011 (UTC)

The artist-person said they were working on a better version, and that was just the base. The TVT discussion about the Wikia says she/he will probably give her a smaller head, a different pose, and probably look more like the rest of the -tans. You can go over and make a request if you'd like....

TCASM 17:10, February 20, 2011 (UTC)

For the sake of the people who don't have a fetish for poorly drawn anime blob-things, I think changing or removing it for now would be for the best.TheJohns 08:57, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

I think she ((He? Idk...)) did a good job. It's a bit of a Butterface thing, and the hands look a bit odd, but heads/faces and hands are usually the harder parts to draw. Give her ((him?)) some time. Or, even better, make a suggestion about what you would like it to look like on the discussion page, since our mod likes the pic and is probably not going to take it down.

TCASM 01:14, February 27, 2011 (UTC)

Potential Fetish Fuel? Other 'offensive' pages? Edit

I asked on TVT but it seems somebody was a cock and banned me from TVT.

I was wondering if there could be a 'Potential Fetish Fuel' page here for users to kick back weird ideas possibly for fanfiction or other stories. (When mention the FF potential for say, superpower power(s)/power sets.)

It would be much like the old Power Peversion Potential page was before it was cleaned up.

Lastly, what about bringing other 'offensive' pages over here and just using the name FFwiki as a catch all? (So anything that can be covered under the name of FF or by other pages.) I'd really like to try bringing some fun and user participation here.

Some things are not going to be allowed on the wiki, full stop. Those things are: racist, sexist or homophobic content; lolicon and shotacon (Personal thoughts on the subject aside, some recent court rulings have made them as good as illegal. I'm not going to have legal problems over this, folks); and personal threats to other members of the wiki.
With that out of the way, one of the things I loved about TT is that people could go there and talk about whatever they liked without fear of being judged.So as long as the majority agrees I'm game with pretty much everything.
I don't understand what you mean by 'Potential Fetish Fuel'. Do you mean a page to suggest possible pages for the wiki? Or to talk about things that could potentially be hot?
Ffmod 08:51, February 11, 2011 (UTC)
Potential Fetish Fuel means any tropes that potentially could be fetishfuel to somebody. Anybody.

I would like to see all possible pages related to fetishfuel and sexual tropes brought over. (And sorry, the world is a imperfect place with imperfect things in it. If you start a wiki dedicated to cataloging things, don't bitch when you have to get your hands covered in shit.) Can we stop the sexism in Other M with the power of our thoughts? No... well what the fuck are you trying to force feel this wiki about not bring controversial topics over here?
It stinks to high heaven like somebody who's liberal fantasyland isn't built so you want to make a empire on the net and demand the world conform to you.
I vote strongly to bring all the sexual tropes over here and host them. We can't claim to be doing anything of value if half the possible content isn't being posted because a few can't handle it. The world has shit in it. I don't see that shit dissappearing just because some cock on the internet decides not to talk about it. This message I'm replying to sounds like a head in the sand liberal.
I am a inclusionist.
Mopeyennui 16:25, February 12, 2011 (UTC)
I've been polite so far. I'd be grateful if you paid me the same courtesy.
Sure. All those things we want to keep out of the wiki will continue existing. That doesn't mean they have to be discussed here anymore than, say, a step by step guide to roofie and rape a girl. There's a reason why we don't want them in the wiki.
First of all, hate speech and obscene content are explicitly forbidden by wikia's TOS. We literally can't afford to be kicked out of wikia. We don't have the kind of money we'd need to build this in our own server.
Second, wikia's servers are in the United States, were the average age of consent is 16/18. We (And by we, I mean me, since as the founder of the wiki I'd be the one who'd facelegal problems) are already taking a huge risk allowing not explicit content about people and characters above 14.
Third, this is a wiki. Wikis are a group effort. I could ignore everyone and do whatever I want, but soon I'd become the one and only editor of the wiki, which would go against the whole point of building this. I never said I'd turn my back on troper tales. I'll make another wiki to host them if I have to, but I won't go against everyone's opinion. This is not my wiki. This is everyone's wiki.
And lastly? Despite the third point, I'm still the mod. Which means that yeah, I do get veto power. I plan to use that privilege as sparely as possible but I'm putting my foot down on this. Absolutely no sexism, racism, homophobia, transphobia or anything that will considered child porn in a court is going to be allowed in the wiki. Everything else I'll discuss, but those things? Off-limits. And that's that. Ffmod 22:40, February 12, 2011 (UTC)
I was just angry about removing things. Even if ywe bring things over vvia a old siterip, there is still the oppurtunity to edit things. Since this is a Media wiki, it'll save everything to history and then we can edit things. (Just to sstop arguements about having s things torn asunder. I just dislike the idea that this is going to be one more chance to 'invisibily edit articles' before it's put on this wiki. That's all. I'm fine wiht editing things if a discussion is held. [Or it's pointed directly out what law is being possibly infringed by a something on FFwiki. Also obvious: Anything Wikia starts coplaining about.])
About law: Okay.. how many countries (and what type of countries) need to make something iillegial for you to start keeping something off FFwiki? I'm sure I can search up plenty of laws to give you migranes.
Because you might as well make a rule about small tits - after all, they are illegial in Australia.
Underaged appearing women in sexual positions is illegial in the UK.
Are you going to hire (or recruit) mods esp. to check for these things?
If so.. at least I know what will happen to FFwiki - sign me up.
I just won't expect light hearted atmosphere on FFwiki.
Mopeyennui 00:49, February 17, 2011 (UTC)
Can I recommend just purging Lolicon/Shotacon from the site? Lord Solar Macharius 22:16, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

Making an index of fetishes Edit


Pretty much self-explanatory in the headline. But if we do make one...can I call dibs on making the Female Muscle Growth page? I know we can't cover everything, but it'd be cool to write up our own personal kinks in an index. We could even have stuff like fanfic recommendations based on fetishes, "contributor matching" (where we match contributors by their personal kinks, like the Troper Dating Service, just for fun though), and a bunch of other stuff if we link our fetish posts in the index to our contributor pages.

By the way, sorry to ffmod, I put this on his/her page by accident. I deleted it though.

Darkclaw91 14:26, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

You might as well mention every color name imaginable and then split those into wavelengths just because some can see mroe colors than others.
That said.. join the inclusionists and try to get the wiki to include everything, every seperation of a trope into subtropes, every fetish you can name, every little scrap applicable. Otherwise the editistas and deletionistas of SPOON will edit the list of tropes down into next to nothing besides 'some people get aroused when watching media.'
Mopeyennui 16:41, February 12, 2011 (UTC)
Sorry it took me so long to reply, I've been busy with rl stuff. Interesting idea! As far as I'm concerned, you can go right ahead. Add it to the Troper Tales category (unless you what you meant was creating a page where people can list examples in media? Then we'd have to make a new category. Something like 'Kinky Tropes'. Mmh, now there's an idea...)
As for the 'contributor matching' idea, make a post in the forum. If it grows enough, we can move it to an actual page.
Lolgoggles 12:33, February 14, 2011 (UTC)
I made a page for fetishes. Feel free to add. If you want, we should make "Kinky Tropes". I'll post in the forums later :)
EDIT: I forgot to log in when I wrote this first.
Darkclaw91 12:48, February 14, 2011 (UTC)
Err, isn't there a list of kinks somewhere on LJ? They link to it on nearly all the kink memes, and it has over a hundred different ones, and we could probably use that as a base if nothing else...
TCASM 12:53, February 14, 2011 (UTC)
Regarding the list of kinks, here it is! It's quite extensive. I think not all of them will be suitable, for various reasons, but it definitely seems like a good place to start.
Poketto 21:10, February 22, 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, probably half of them are banned in some TOS agreement or another.... I suppose we could give some of the Not Quite Not Safe For Work ones as examples, and link to the list, maybe with a caution note or two? Would that keep us and our Fearless Leader out of trouble?
TCASM 12:48, February 23, 2011 (UTC)
We could use that list and the kinks we already listed as inspiration to add more Kinky Tropes to the wiki. So far most of what we have are articles adapted from tvtropes, but my goal is to come up with some Kinky Tropes of our own.

The TOS only prohibits hate speech and obscene content, so as long as the descriptions and the examples are kept PG-13 rated, we shouldn't have any trouble with most of the kinks. At least in theory!

Lolgoggles 19:43, February 23, 2011 (UTC)

"Kinky Tropes of our own"? YAYS! (^_^)

So unless someone complains to the higher authorities, we'll be fine? I could set up the page if you'd like. Don't have anything terribly important to do anyway.... ::isn't trying the "ignore it until it goes away" thing with assignments, nope::

TCASM 21:28, February 23, 2011 (UTC)

"Kinky Tropes of our own"? YAYS! (^_^)

I know! This is going to be fun! *griiiiiin*

Basically, yeah. There isn't a set definition for 'obscene content' and they don't have the manpower to check every wiki for dirty stuff, so unless someone complains, we're safe.

Sure, go ahead! lolgoggles 23:40, February 23, 2011 (UTC)

::-bounces:: Huzzah!

Kay, I've got one of these papers due tomorrow, so I may not have the page up today, but it'll be up before the weekend. Orrrrr, because procrastination is fun and all the kewl kids are doing it, I'll do it in an hour....


TCASM 23:59, February 23, 2011 (UTC)

Just remembered that someone had started a list of kinks (Don't have the time to look it up, lol). If someone finds it, we should merge them together.

Some Kinky Tropes I've thought of adding are: Hot Amazon (Strong Women), Real Women Have Curves/BBW/Big Girl You Are Beautiful (For, ahem, big women) and Woman In Charge (For femdom or basically any instance of powerful women). Me thinks my kinks are showing XD If anybody can think of more, or if they can think or something witty for the intro of those tropes, feel free to start a new page.

Lolgoggles 09:11, February 24, 2011 (UTC)

....If someone adds BBW/some-other-name-but-basically-the-same here, I will send jelly babies and tea. Through the monitor. And Femdom is always, always good.

Some other ones ((that we may or may not have already, can't remember...)):

  • Geeks! Sheldon, the Tenth practically every Doctor, Linkara, Reid, all utterly adorkable and brilliant!
  • Dunno how to do it and not make it one jumbled bag of stuff, but clothes/uniforms? Gloves, corsets, boots, hats, badges/medals, drag ((coughcoughespeciallydragcoughcough))....things like that?
  • Woobies, of any type really.
  • Dom/sub
  • Ditzy-ness/amnesia/minor insanity/Cloud Cookoo Landers. The sweet kind, not the "locked-away-in-padded-cell" kind....okay, not usually.
  • Alien-ness. Not sure how to explain that one....
  • Furry Fandom can haz own page?
  • And does a loyalty!kink count as an actual kink?

....I have far too many fetishes....

TCASM 14:56, February 24, 2011 (UTC)

Can I make a page for muscled women? I made the Amazonian Beauty page on Tv Tropes so...

I don't know if it should have the same title or a different one. Maybe Buff and Beautiful? Not sure, will need to think about this...

Darkclaw91 21:40, February 24, 2011 (UTC)

The [Big_Girl_You_Are_Beautiful] page is up!

I like all of your ideas! Hot Geeks ftw!

We could make individual pages for the more common ones and a general 'fetishy clothes' one (with a better name, obviously) so people can add less common examples there. If something gets enough examples, we move it to its own page. I don't know. What do you think?

I'm sorry, I don't follow XD Can you give me some examples?

You can never have too many fetishes!

Sure! Go ahead. I like Buff and Beautiful, it's clearer. We can always make redirects for any other names you can think of.

Lolgoggles 03:41, February 25, 2011 (UTC)

Because I should stop replying to stuff before going to bed, I forgot to reply to say this: Furry can haz own page! It has a lot of examples already, you just need to be sort them and write an intro. Can you do it? *working in like a billion pages already*

BTW, here's that page I told you about.

Lolgoggles 10:06, February 25, 2011 (UTC)

Alien-ness..... Like Spock? All aloof and not-human and brilliant...close to being human but not quite... I guess it's like how "exotic beauties" were women who weren't white, only applying it to the entire cosmos instead?

I don't know how to explain.... >_>

Those aren't even half my kinks though....

TCASM 21:28, February 25, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe we could have a page for each/nearly each of the items on this list? And then add, add, add. Although we'll need witty names if possible, I guess.

But an attraction to alien-ness, that'd be like xenophilia, wouldn't it be?

Poketto 23:31, February 25, 2011 (UTC)

Just made the page for Buff and Beautiful...sadly I made it while logged out unknowningy. So it doesn't say I "made" it...but that's not that important I guess. Anyways, it is up. Enjoy :)

Darkclaw91 02:39, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

....That's actually exactly the word. ::headdesk:: Univeristy is eating my brain....

And the list has about 400 examples, and could have some sort of spin-off examples ((like how "Warrior" can be Amazons for women and Heracles-types for men)) so....well, we'd certainly have lots of pages. Lots and lots and lots of pages. (O_O)

TCASM 23:39, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

I think of the list as inspiration in case I feel like working on a new page, not as a checklist. We could add a sub-section to your list, sort of a 'want list' with the kinks we're more interested in getting a page for. That way we wouldn't get so overwhelmed XD

A page on Xenophilia would be great! I can think of a hot alien or two ;)

Great job with the Buff and Beautiful page, Darkclaw91!

Lolgoggles 00:38, February 27, 2011 (UTC)

Ahh, I see. I guess I'll starting thinking out which pages I'd be willing to try and make. Sorry for any silliness on my part. I'm a teensy bit inexperienced at anything that isn't adding examples, I guess.

^^reply added by Poketto

There's no need to apologize! This is a fairly unique project: Not quite a wiki, not quite TVT, not quite a porn site. There's not a right way to do things, just different possibillities. We'll have to make up a lot as we go. That's why it's so important to share our ideas. And now I'm starting to sound like a Care Bear, but you know what I mean XD

Lolgoggles 22:03, February 27, 2011 (UTC)

I started up the omni-genre Furry Fandom page, added in a pic, and might get to work sorting examples from the other page eventually if someone doesn't get to it first.

As for the want-list/checklist, yeah, that sounds like a good idea. We'd still probably have about 800 new pages, which is as awesome as it is kinda disconcerting.....but mostly awesome!

TCASM 01:02, February 28, 2011 (UTC)

I'm a complete disaster and thus I forgot that this page is actually a wishlist. If everyone's okay with that, I'm going to rename it to Wishlist and move the examples we already have to it. The big-ass list of kinks will stay were you made it.

I saw your Furry page. Great intro and good choice of a pic! The only thing that could use some improving is your formatting. I really should get around making a formatting guide. Bad mod! No cookie!

Lolgoggles 00:43, March 2, 2011 (UTC)

Ah, it's fine. And I'm terrible at formatting, pretty much everywhere. I had to get help just to figure out how to do italics in LJ comments. (>_>)

And since I have a break all next week, I can possibly get started making some of the ones on the kink-list into pages.

ETA: Made the "Geeks Do It Better" page for hot geeks/nerds....what do you think?

TCASM 23:20, March 4, 2011 (UTC)

@Lolgoggles: As for my formatting, the only thing I really have down - aside from stuff like italics - is HTML linking. I've been just going to existing pages that look snazzy and adapting the bits of their source codes I need, aha. So if you have the time to make a formatting guide at any point, it would be great appreciated. :)

I just went and made Living Canvas as a catch-all for tattoos and body modifications, but I don't have time to do anymore right now. Hope it's all right! Writing a good intro is much harder than it looks.

Poketto 19:02, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

I thought I had replied to you already XD The page looks perfect! I 'stole' your list of media types for new pages.

I haven't found anything wrong with your formatting in Living Canvas, so your method works XD Cool name, by the way.

Everyone: Don't worry if you can't think of something to put in the intro, or if you think of something too short. If you can think of a name and one or two examples, start a page. Either someone else will write it for you or inspiration will strike and you'll come up with something. This is a collaborative effort. Someone else will have your back.

I have some free time due to a mighty case of the flu, so I'm going to start working on a formatting/style guide. It should be up by this time tomorrow.

Lolgoggles 11:59, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

The Formatting Guide is up. Is there anything that isn't clear enough or that I forgot to explain? Any changes you'd make?

Lolgoggles 23:53, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

Pictures? Edit

What pages so far don't have pics for them and need them? I'll be putting one up for AT4W in a minute, but I know there's probably a lot more out there.

If there's any someone wants put up now, feel free to suggest the page and/or a pic as well.

-::Goes to use amazing powers of Google Fu::

TCASM 02:15, March 6, 2011 (UTC)

The fast and dirty answer is 'most troper tales and many of the media pages'. For a more detailed one I'd have to check each page. The Woobie does need a picture though.

Go, TCASM, go!

Lolgoggles 20:01, March 7, 2011 (UTC)

...I keep getting an error message about being in "history mode", whatever that means. I tried to add a picture to Woobie, but it wouldn't let me; managed to get it onto the Wiki itself, but not the page.


TCASM 15:13, March 8, 2011 (UTC)

Fixed and ready for a caption! I think that the wiki 'thought' that the article was still being edited. All I had to do was click edit and then publish.

Lolgoggles 17:32, March 8, 2011 (UTC)


((Though now I'm worried about a sentient!FF Wikia.... O_O))

TCASM 22:44, March 8, 2011 (UTC)

What do we call media pages? + "This Troper"? Edit

Thingie 1:

Kinky Tropes and Troper Tales are great category names, but we don't have a name for pages about media (that is to say, pages about shows, books, comics, etc as opposed to tropes). Any suggestions?

Thingie 2:

I was adding some real life examples, I got stuck. Could I still use 'This Troper'? Well, of course I could. I *am* a Troper. I've collaborated in TVT. But, because I have the habit of overthinking stuff, then I started to wonder what would happen if someone worked on this wiki but not on TVT. Would they feel comfortable calling themselves a troper?

Of course, we're not here to tell anyone what they should call themselves. Heck, as far as I'm concerned, we could start using the first person from now on. I'm just trying to come up with an alternative for those who don't want to use Troper (Personally, I'll probably keep using it at least half of the time).

I've been using 'This Fangirl' and 'This Fanperv'. What do you think?

Lolgoggles 20:07, March 7, 2011 (UTC)

On the thingy 2, I've seen lots of all sorts of different pronouns and self-referals, and I alternate between "I" and "This Troper" and even "this perv" in every other example, but then I came from TVT. Most presumably-non-Tropers I've seen don't use that when they update, but most/all of the heathens non-Tropers were probably refered here by someone who is a Troper, and so is probably used to the "This Tropers" and random capitalized words/phrases.

-::shrug:: I dunno, maybe we should have an orientation meeting or something, but it seems like they're not pulling out their hair in raging confusion yet....

((...if any of this doesn't make sense and/or seems like it was written after only three hours of sleep for the last two days....that's because it was.))

TCASM 14:06, March 8, 2011 (UTC)


Is it just me or did all the google ads vanish from all of Wikia (this wiki included?).


Err, do you have Firefox adblocker? That'd explain it....

TCASM 14:31, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

GAR Edit

Since there's no chance of the term being ever reintroduced to TVT even as a Fan-Speak article (per a direct decree from TVT's admin).... Does GAR as defined here count as a Fetish Fuel Trope? MarqFJA 08:48, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

The way that page defines it, GAR is too similar to Even the Guys Want Him. Personally I think we should do one of two things: either create the page as a redirect to Even the Guys Want Him and add something to the intro of that page about the term or redefine GAR so the limits between the two tropes are clearer. Thoughts?

Either way, starting a category for Fan Speak is a good idea.Lolgoggles 10:09, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

I don't quite agree with you. Even The Guys Want Him is typically based on normal forms of attraction, i.e. to appearance, general personality, intelligence, and such. The attraction in "GAR", on the other hand, is based on the object performing considerable badass feats, frequently disregards most/all other considerations -- and is technically not limited to males only. MarqFJA 18:08, April 3, 2011 (UTC)
For some reason I read the message you left at the bottom, but not this one. As long as the intro makes that clear, the page has my blessing. I've done my own research and the term is also widespread enough. You may proceed, sir! Lolgoggles 23:17, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

On a related note, does anyone remember what TVT's original GAR article defined it as? Just in case there's something salvageable in it, that is. MarqFJA 10:29, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

I found this.Lolgoggles 16:56, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, since that page is deleted, I don't think you have to worry about the history being deleted. However, I don't think we're going to the version just before it got deleted. Still, a page that existed around Sept. of 2010 is certainly better than nothing. I can adapt those bits of code to wikia code. Grey Lurker 02:50, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

T,V Edit

Okay I just added a PSL for t.v though I want to do it like the Icarly way to break it down and make it easer to use.

Please sign your posts in the future with four tildes, it makes conversations easier!
There are some tips for editing in the Formatting Guide. I'll try to clean up the Perverse Sexual Tension at some point of this week, anyway. Thanks for contributing! Lolgoggles 00:06, May 24, 2011 (UTC)


Hi! This is Willbyr from TV Tropes. We're going to have to axe the Evangelion lemon fics due to the new crackdown on content. I was wondering if there was a way that they could be hosted here. Is there already a page for fanfiction?

How To Add Another Page?

Hey, I wanted to try and add another page to the Real Life section of the wiki, but I don't know how. ...Help? 04:09, July 5, 2012 (UTC)ElegantVamp

Main Page PictureEdit

I realize people don't seem to go on this wiki much anymore so maybe no one will see this - but is anyone else in favor of getting rid of the main page picture? Based on a skim of this talk page it looks like she was intended to be a Fetish Fuel-Tan, but I don't really like the drawing - I feel she looks more childlike and cartoony (kind of like Betty Boop) than attractive in the way that would suit this wiki. Just interested in other opinions. CrystalYoshi (talk) 10:07, April 23, 2017 (UTC)